Comment by LibertyNews

January 24, 2010 @ 11:43 am

Hey! You weren’t the only one — but you couldn’t see me raise my hand behind you. I’ve actually been attacked at a stop light, my solution was to drive off (I was lucky enough that the light changed just as they punched me in the eye).

In the video we were discussing the car clearly had enough space to escape, or just run the idiot over as he walked in front or behind the car. No need to endanger bystanders with a gunshot.

Thanks for the link

Comment by Kristopher

January 24, 2010 @ 2:30 pm

Best way to draw while seated in a car is from a strong-side ankle or thigh holster.

Belt is a bad place to draw from in a car … practice is good here.

Comment by D.W. Drang

January 24, 2010 @ 9:59 pm

When he asked “would you shoot?” I said “no”; when he was asking “lethal force”, I was all for running the scumbag down.

I was going to describe the situation, but I don’t want to offer spoilers for those who haven’t taken the course, yet.

Comment by Phil

January 25, 2010 @ 2:29 am

Sorry about that guys. Corrections made.

Comment by Rivrdog

January 25, 2010 @ 8:41 am

Two things: you have identical legal jeopardy if you run someone down or shoot them dead. both are uses of deadly force, and your vehicle has standing as a dangerous weapon in court. Second, if you wear a snap-on-belt cross-draw paddle holster in the car, it’s even faster to draw from than an ankle holster. Assuming you are right-handed, it will be right next to the door, though, so make sure you have your door locked.

I was also attacked by an angry motorist at a stoplight many years ago. since then, I carry a hand axe in the driver’s door pocket. It is a warehouseman’s axe, with a short handle, so it doesn’t look too bad when I open the door of my truck. You don’t have room to swing a real battle-axe, anyway.

Tactic is, duck incoming blow, seize assailant’s wrist with right hand, draw axe with left, execute a forceful chop to the forearm, release arm as assailant recoils with lacerated arm, open door, exit vehicle and continue axe or gun work as appropriate. Yes, I have practiced this with a partner. It seems that the assaulted driver has a huge force advantage over the assaulting a-hole, and pinning the assailant’s arm is very easy.

Comment by steve_in_ca

January 25, 2010 @ 9:01 am

Two things: you have identical legal jeopardy if you run someone down or shoot them dead. both are uses of deadly force, and your vehicle has standing as a dangerous weapon in court.
But officer, I was avoiding the swinging crowbar when I lost control of my truck and ran him over twice

Comment by steve_in_ca

January 25, 2010 @ 9:03 am

BTW, just recieved my Utah non-resident CWP. Pity I live in PDRCA.

Comment by steve_in_ca

January 25, 2010 @ 9:33 am

One more little thing, don’t use your Utah non-resident CWP in Colorado, they don’t accept it!

Comment by Davidwhitewolf

January 25, 2010 @ 11:28 am

Anybody mention Ayoob’s old trick of cranking your wheels hard right at each stop? It’s an easy habit to develop, and all you need do when an attacker approaches your door is pop it in reverse and hit the gas.

Comment by Shawn Mahood

January 26, 2010 @ 1:40 am

Steve_In_CA -
Just a head’s up. It’s not just Colorado. Florida, Michigan and New Hampshire all recognize the Utah Resident permit, but not the Non-Resident permit. Beware instructors who advertise that it is accepted in 33 States. It is, but only if you are a Utah resident.

DaveWhiteWolf -
Another old cop trick is to make sure that you can see the point where the rear tires of the car in front of you meet the road. This generally gives you enough room to manuever should the need arrise.

Phil -
I somehow didn’t get your email addy at the class. Please drop me an email at smahood@fortissecuritytech.com

Thanks for the positive review!

Shawn

Comment by steve_in_ca

January 26, 2010 @ 8:14 am

Thanks Shawn, good info, I didn’t look that far into it. I really only got the CWP for traveling in the Western States.